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Rating: really liked it
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Sequel to Sayonara Game. This is my internal thoughts: I WISH THEY WOULD STOP HIDING THE RELATIONSHIP! I also wish
Itou Yousuke would show more affection towards
Arimura Ikuo and visa versa. I needed more from their relationship. It feels like Yousuke isn't comfortable. I want them more possessive, jealous and protective towards each other, but how can that be when they are
hiding?! Overall, I'm glad we got a sequel, but I still wanted more out of it. Also I need to say that the names confused me a lot.
Other Characters:→
Matsu Hiroshi, a cook and friend of Itou-Kun and child-friend of Arimura-Senpai?
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Masato Hozumi-san, co-worker of Itou at the trading company and university friend of Arimura. Gay. He's featured in the manga
Love Nest, a spin-off to this one.
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Kuroda Marie-San, a girl who likes girls. She and Masato pretended to be in a relationship at their university time.
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Arimura-Nana, Arimura's sister and has a little something something going on with Matsu?
“Ngh... You're mine, Yousuke...”
“...It's only... Senpai.”
Quick basic facts:Genre: - (Adult) (Yaoi) Manga (M/M).
Series: - Series, Book Two.
Love triangle? - (view spoiler)
[No. (hide spoiler)]Cheating? - (view spoiler)
[No. (hide spoiler)]HEA? - (view spoiler)
[Yes. (hide spoiler)]Favorite character? - Arimura Ikuo.
Would I read more by this author/or of series? - I'll check things out.
Would I recommend this book/series? -Yes.
Will I read this again in the future? - Most likely not.
Rating - 3 stars.
Rating: really liked it
Change World vol. 1 takes place a year after the events of its prequel Sayonara Game. I gave Sayonara Game a 4.5 star rating, but in all honesty it was very predictable and didn't have that “special something” that makes you know you’ll want to reread it in the future. That wasn’t the case for Change World. Arimura is a jealous lover and though I saw glimpses of it in Sayonara Game I thought it had more to do with the newness of their relationship than anything else. Apparently, that wasn’t the case. A year later and he still feels uneasy whenever Yosuke pays too much attention to anyone other than him.
In this story Hozumi is the sexy driving force behind Arimura’s newest insecurity. He wants Yosuke for himself and although it wasn’t right for him to cause issues in their relationship I wasn’t too upset with him because he really does believe that Arimura will end up leaving Yosuke in the future. Arimura still identifies as straight and doesn’t want anyone to know about their relationship. Its understandable that Hozumi questions his sincerity and since he thinks he’s better suited for Yosuke it makes sense that he’d go after him.
I love jealous semes so this story was right up my alley. I would have loved Arimura’s inner Junta Azumaya to come out but this isn’t that kind of story. Ariumura’s feelings are presented rather sweetly with just enough inner turmoil to keep it interesting. The overall story concludes in volume 2 so you’ll have to wait for that to come out to see what ends up happening. That being said, this volume does end at a good stopping point. 4.75 stars, rounded up.
Rating: really liked it
The major point in this book's favor is that it seems set to tackle the "gay for you" trope, and possibly the idea that someone who is bisexual isn't "really" gay.
Rating: really liked it
Ik vind niet echt dat het een goed verhaal is.
Rating: really liked it
This was a fine manga, but it didn't really expand that much on Ito and Arimura from the last book. They practically stayed the same characters that we ended with in the Sayonara Games. The main conflict of this story was Ito and Arimura's old college friend, Hozumi, coming back into their lives to test their relationship. But Hozumi's interest in Ito is never developed or explained beyond a random scene of dialouge of him telling Arimura that's he's actually straight and will leave Ito to marry a woman. Reading the synaposis I was excited to see how this conflict would get laid out, but the story never really delivered on anything.
I don't dislike what I read, I just wish there was more substance in the sense that most of this manga felt liker fluff because nothing was built up. I don't expect to read the best literature of all time, but I hope that I can feel invested in whatever i'm reading, which I sadly wasn't with this volume.
I still look forward to the next installment of this serious, I just hope that it utlizes it's story better.
Rating: really liked it
Me siento generosa y le doy cinco estrellas porque me gusta mucho cómo ha continuado la historia de Sayonara Game en esta continuación y por el desarrollo tan bien hecho de la relación amorosa de Ikuo y Yosuke. Las comidas de olla de Ikuo me han dado la vida junto con Masato que es un plus total.
Porque este desarrollo me gusta mucho, porque pone en tela de juicio muchos elementos que se consideran románticos como la posesividad y los celos y aquí Minaduki hace que Ikuo se cuestione si en verdad no es algo malo en una relación y que no es bueno. Otro plus.
También ayuda el leer en papel con una buena traducción y una edición sin censura como es la francesa de Hana. Así que, aunque debería darle 4 pues le doy 5 estrellas porque si, porque quiero
Rating: really liked it
Man merkt, dass Minaduki von ihrem
Debut ‚Sayonara Game’ bis zu ‚Change World 1‘, erzählerisch einen Sprung gemacht hat.
Wir befinden uns mitten in Ito and Arimuas Beziehungsalltag, der leider gar nicht viel Screentime für die beiden bietet. Und das ist auch der Punkt, den ich echt Schade finde, denn dadurch vermisse ich noch immer ein bisschen die Charaktertiefe der beiden.
Weil Ito so schüchtern ist, begegnen sie sich leider noch nicht ganz auf Augenhöhe, aber dennoch sind sie wirklich süß zusammen.
Doch dafür gibt’s mal wieder einen Rivalen, den man eigentlich nicht braucht. Masato, der Hauptcharakter aus Love Nest. Und er zeigt sich in Change World alles andere als von seiner besten Seite 😖.
Ich bin gespannt, was der zweite Band noch bereit hält und muss danach wohl nochmal Love Nest rereaden 👌🏼.
Auch, wenn diese beiden Bände noch nicht an Love Nest heranreichen, bin ich froh und dankbar, dass wir sie alle übersetzt bekommen.
Rating: really liked it
I like this continuation of Sayonara Game. We follow our two leads, now adults, as they navigate adult life together. I like the characters in this one, though I find the whole "Straight man loving man" story a little tired. I understand that closeted people exist and are valid, but it's just an old trope that I'm not fond of. I also don't really like the interloper storyline, either. A little disappointing compared to Sayonara Game.
Rating: really liked it
Maybe more of a 2.5? I was honestly kind of bored. I didn't get excited and nothing made my heart flutter or anything. It was just okay I guess. The drama was somewhat interesting so maybe the next volume will be better.
Rating: really liked it
This manga definitely cannot be started from the first volume no matter what it says. If you ever start it, it should be from the prequel. Starting it here, I didn't understand anything about the characters, why they love each other, about their friends, and the work didn't make sense to me at all.
I give it 2 stars because I was pleasantly surprised that there was no rape and it was clear that the main characters genuinely loved each other and wanted the best for their partner not only for themself.
Rating: really liked it
Okay so I know I just said that I don't like love triangles but this is less of a triangle and more of a minor arc in a bigger plot. I enjoyed it so far!
Rating: really liked it
Well that's one heck of a cliffhanger. 5 stars with the hopeful assumption that the second half (not out for two more months!!) is as good, and has a satisfying and happy ending.
It's interesting that the things I was worried about really weren't an issue here. Or, they were, but they were handled differently than I'd expected - like I'm used to seeing in this genre. Ikuo
is really jealous and a little bit insecure about his relationship with Yosuke, but he's aware that his possessiveness is an ugly emotion and is fighting to keep it under control. He's also struggling with whether Yosuke, who's always hero-worshipped him, would still love this ugly, selfish, unkind side of him, so I wonder if the next volume will go into that in more detail.
They definitely need to sit down and have some serious conversations, because while they have a really blissful, passionate, devoted relationship a year in, they haven't settled some of the bigger issues. Like how Ikuo really wants to live with Yosuke, so they can see more of each other even with their super busy work schedules. Or how Yosuke is afraid to spend too much of his time with Ikuo, because he's already so happy he thinks he's going to explode from it, and can't handle much more. Yosuke isn't used to expressing what he wants/needs, and while he's gotten much more communicative with Ikuo over time, he's still holding back a lot.
All of this is obviously going to be super complicated by Yosuke's work forcing him to go to their New York office for 2-3 years - right now I'm not actually sure how that's going to play out. Will Ikuo go with him? How will that work with his job? Yosuke
can't endanger his career by turning this opportunity down, and Ikuo has the realization, right at the end of this volume, that Yosuke would absolutely do that (and worse) for him if he asked. And much credit to Ikuo for recognizing, right away, that trying to tie Yosuke to him like that isn't okay and wouldn't lead to the kind of healthy, happy future he wants for the both of them.
Interestingly, Ikuo's father is absent for work quite a lot, and is still very much in love with his wife, sharing some nice moments of affection as they head out on a date night together - something that we don't often see for the parents in these kinds of stories. I think it's too new for Yosuke and Ikuo to be split that far apart for that long, so that probably won't be how it goes, but...we'll see. It's always possible there will be a timeskip or something. (After all, Yosuke loved Ikuo for 5 years before they actually started dating; it's not like his feelings would change.)
The rival, Hozumi, was another plot bit I was concerned about, but he wasn't nearly as dramatically annoying and unnecessary as I'm used to seeing in these kinds of series. He raised some interesting and pretty valid points, and while he's interested in Yosuke, he's not actually pressuring him or pretending (even to Ikuo) that Yosuke is interested in him.
He thinks there's potential there, maybe, once Yosuke breaks things off with Ikuo and gets through his heartbreak - because at the end of the day, Yosuke and Hozumi are both gay men, and Ikuo is just...what? "Gay for" Yosuke? Is that really going to last, when the initial passion fades and family and societal pressures crowd in? Since he's been "straight" all of his life, won't he just take the easier option and marry some beautiful, smart, easy to get along with woman like all the many, many others he's dated?
This is a love story, so none of that's going to happen, unless this story goes horribly wrong in the final hour, but those are actually things they need to think about and talk through. And while it's not fair for Hozumi to categorize Ikuo in a certain way or to think that he has it "easier" because he likes women, I did appreciate the frank conversations about sexuality, and the presence of two decidedly gay characters in this story.
Yosuke, like Hozumi, simply doesn't have the option of settling down with a nice girl and having that traditional life everyone expects - not if he wants any chance at real happiness. And this is honestly made even rougher by how non-supportive his family has always been.
I still wonder if they're actually going to show up and how that will impact things. It's possible, since he has an older brother listed now, who hasn't made an appearance - so maybe that's important? He seems to be oddly cut off from them, though. He never talks about his family, doesn't mention any possibility of Ikuo meeting them, and is firmly established in his own apartment with a steady, good-paying job that gives him his independence.
He did think about them while spending time with Ikuo's family - which was one of my favorite scenes in this book, as he contrasted his own cold, distant, restricted childhood with the warmth and affection of Ikuo's. I want so much for Ikuo's mother to realize that she
has gotten Yosuke as a son...just not through the child she was expecting. He deserves to be a part of that whole family.
Sidnote: when are Matsu and Nana going to become a thing? I was expecting some of that development, but Matsu's scenes were mostly on the friend front - which was great, actually. I loved him teaching Yosuke how to cook for himself, and the sweet touches where Yosuke was trying so hard to get over his hatred of bell peppers so he can eat Ikuo's favorite foods with him - even though Ikuo has never pressured him about that in any way.
There's a lot going on in this volume, all of it interesting, most of it good, and
told really effectively - plus the art is beautiful.
Also, bonus points for showing the aftercare with Ikuo taking care of Yosuke and helping to clean him up in the shower, which is something I haven't seen in any of the manga I've been reading so far. There's an intimacy and realism in those small details that really makes this series stand apart. I so, so hope I'll love the rest.
Rating: really liked it
rerereread, once again and again. because I love Itou and Ikuo.
2 volumes, sequels to Sayonara Game, that just make you happy.
Rating: really liked it
『 ★★★,7 』
[ Tag(s): possessive-lovers • ]A sequel of
サヨナラゲーム (Sayonara Game), which takes place one year after the first story ends.
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Related series and a preferably reading order of this universe:
1. サヨナラゲーム (Sayonara Game) — adapted from.
2. チェンジワールド 上 (Change World) — this book.
3. ラブネスト(上) (Love Nest 1) — spin-off of チェンジワールド 上 (Change World)
4. ラブネスト(下) (Love Nest 2)
5. Spin-off of ラブネスト(下) (Love Nest 2) that is still on-progres5
Rating: really liked it
Esta es la continuación de la historia de Ito y You, un slice of life básicamente. Sin embargo, lo que lo diferencia de otros mangas (y hasta libros en general, de éste género), es su forma de hacerlo tan cotidiano y natural; los personajes tienden a ser un poco duros en su forma de ser (no tienen grandes facetas, van al simple uke sensible y fácil de sonrojar, al seme superatractivo, bien mozo y seductor como ninguno), aunque AGRADEZCO que muestren que ellos resuelven sus problemas de pareja meditando sobre el tema consigo mismos y charlándolo con el otro.
En este caso también se agrega a Hozumi, un personaje bastante curioso, que invita (y espero) a tener su propio manga. Es divertido, y tiende a ser un Pepe grillo bastante entrometido, a veces con buenas intenciones y otras siendo bastante ooc.
Sí se puede decir que los characters sufrieron un development, demostrando nuevas facetas conforme transcurría la lectura, y me he sorprendido con algunas escenas warm heart que uff!
Para concluir, debo decir que el manga me pareció un poco (muy) largo, una de las cosas que me llevó a no darle las cuatro estrellas. Sinceramente no creo que toda la trama debía durar tanto.
Y como bien dice el dicho (que recién me inventé mientras se me ocurría la review), mejor que me dejes con ganas de más a queme canse tu historia. Hubo varias ocasiones en que consideré abandonarla, pero tengi un toc que no me deja hacerlo, so...
(Si, una de las divertidas razones por las que no me embarco en los manhwas...